Jon Reed talks with UpperEdge’s John Belden and Adam Mansfield about the problem of digital transformation in the real world. They shift into cloud issues, and why customers are wary that SaaS can be just another form of lock-in, with the same licensing headaches. The conversation wraps with a freewheeling review of the latest cloud news, from Salesforce acquiring Tableau to Google Cloud’s ups and downs in its enterprise push.
